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this right here, this comment right here pisses me the fuck off.
you’re in your every right to like one company more than the other but cite “better women” as your reason is not only insulting to the amazing, wonderful female characters DC has created but also hailing marvel’s female characters for all the wrong reason.
If you said your reason for liking one company more than the other is because Marvel treats its female characters better or is starting to, i would completely agree with you and probably have a discussion.
BUT THIS. THIS IS NOT OKAY
There’s also the fact that it goes against every notion of feminism ever.
"Better Women" is reducing a whole group of women to one broad gesture, and using it to degrade another group of women.
No woman is better than another, and DC’s women certainly aren’t terrible. They’re amazing. And so are Marvel’s; all women are.
DC treats it’s women like shit. That’s not their fault, and it doesn’t make them less than.
Here’s the thing. I knew this was coming.
Every time a Jennifer Lawrence or Anne Hathaway challenges an interviewer’s question on the basis of sexism/feminism – asking why their male counterpart got the “good” question about his work and she got the question about her outfit and workout routine we come a little bit closer. We do a tiny bit better.
Moments like these are praised, especially on Tumblr. Gifset after gifset of JLaw or Anne Hathaway makes its way across my dash with thousands, sometimes hundreds of thousands of notes, praising the actresses for rejecting the systematic sexism thrown their way in interviews or speaking out or being vocal for (white) feminism.
Yet when Nicole Beharie does it, we get a soundbite turned gifset stripped of its context, spun around, and flipped on its head to paint Beharie, Fox’s breakout star, and Black America’s latest hero, as some fronting, demeaning, sexist, spewing divisive, anti-feminist logic with a misogynistic undercurrent.
HUH! Well will you look at that! It’s the Miley Cyrus twerking debacle all over again. As I scroll through the “Nicole Beharie” tag I’ve tracked on tumblr I find myself taking a deep cleansing breath to rid myself of the frustration that’s come over me, and realize the smell of sexism and feel of racism permeating my lungs is all too familiar. And expected.
Beharie’s comment about preferring Marvel over DC because they have better women, wasn’t “reducing a whole group of women to one broad gesture, and using it to degrade another group of women.” On the contrary, she was praising Marvel for it’s better treatment, visibility, and writing of their women/female characters – thereby declaring her preference for Marvel’s story telling. The darnest thing is that somehow when I watched this interview, I squealed in a total fangirl moment that consisted of a gasp & “me toooo.” Y’know…because I got it!
Dear white feminists who don’t know the true meaning of intersectionality, take your puppet strings and weak attempts elsewhere.
*Defaulters refers to the default gender, sexual orientation, (& in this article in particular) race, etc. here in America. I seriously shouldn’t need to spell it out any more than that. :O)
What in the FUCKING FUCK? How does anyone read that very brief exchange, even stripped of context, as ANYTHING OTHER THAN “I prefer Marvel because their women characters are treated and written better?”
Oh, yeah, right. Racism, that’s how. JFC, people.
It’s really ridiculous just how uncharitably they read her comment. As said above, it was obvious what she meant. These characters aren’t REAL, they’re created. When she says “better women” she meant better characters, better written, better situated. It’s like saying you like Star Wars better than Star Trek because of “better battles” and then somebody says “YOU ARE DEMEANING THE AMAZING OFFICERS IN STAR TREK WHO GIVE THEIR LIVES IN COMBAT”. Well, no. They’re not real, the battles are fictional constructs made out of creative choices and decisions by writers and filmmakers. And we understand that. This isn’t any different. And generally, we do understand that for women talking about how women are portrayed or treated in media too, at least (as pointed out in the above reblogs) for white people.
Using the example alluded to above about Emma Stone pointing out the differences between the questions she gets asked and Andrew Garfield gets asked, she’s praised for noting that she gets asked all the fashion/relationship questions and he gets asked “the interesting, poignant questions”. I mean people could be just as uncharitable to her and say that she’s claiming fashion and relationships aren’t interesting and she’s demeaning groups of women who are interested in those things. But they don’t, because they understand context and that she’s pointing out sexism. And yet for Beharie, they read it as literal and negatively as possible, and ignored that she’s talking about fictional creations and therefore her critique/praise would obviously be about the writing and creative choices. People don’t need to agree with her assessment, but to dismiss her opinion by trying to frame it in this completely contextless way is ridiculous.
BLESS ALL OF THE BOLDED.
I’ve seen previous gifsets of Nicole stating how excited she was to finally play a character as Abbie, that she enjoys reading comics, and that she has never had an opportunity like this before and she’s happy that she’s apart of the Sleepy Hollow crew.
She’s a geek! She reads and enjoys comics! And when I saw this particular gif with other gifsets of her I UNDERSTOOD WHAT SHE MEANT BECAUSE I FEEL THE EXACT SAME WAY. Marvel’s women ARE better than DC’s. Not better ACTUAL, LIVING BREATHING WOMEN PITTED against OTHER women. But BETTER CRAFTED. BETTER WRITTEN. BETTER PORTRAYED. It BAFFLES me that there are so many of you that took it literally and didn’t understand the context of what she meant.
We get a comic fan talking normally about comics and she hasn’t said anything NEW. A LOT OF YOU ACTUALLY AGREE AND HAVE MADE TEXT POSTS UPON TEXT POSTS DISCUSSING THIS, WHY IS IT THAT WHEN WE HAVE A BLACK WOMAN SAYING THE EXACT SAME THING, THERE’S IMMEDIATE BACKLASH?
Don’t bother answering, I already know.